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Be Employee Or Start A Business; What do you think, feel free to comment.
Topic Started: Jun 29 2007, 12:45 PM (2,113 Views)
ongkh
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not to say big & proud abt wafer fab industry. in m'sia alone, there are few semicon factory producing 8" and 12" wf in kulim hi-tech, penang, central & s'wak.

this is a very hi-end component that mounted on to our handphones, pda, laptop, mobile acc, isdn, etc.etc.........
u can't imagine......... my comp has invested total of more than usd800 billions for eqpt & mfg plant since 1994 till today....
http://enterpriseportal/
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punisher
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citronella
Jun 29 2007, 03:45 PM
not bad. go sell WAFFER in pasar malam...! sure good business.. :lol3:

hardly see WAFFER available in pasar malam eh.. ;)

in Swak still got.. :lol3: :lol3:
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punisher
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Jun 29 2007, 04:10 PM
TunYau
Jun 29 2007, 03:53 PM
Vash also working on own business right??

am planning to use my avanza as school bus.. can make money or not hah??
avanza can fit 10 small kids

1 person = RM40 permonth
2 session = morning & noon = 20 kids

20 kids x RM40 = RM800 permonth (enuf ka??) i think malam kena jual waffle la!!!

but once licensing board n JPJ nab u,,u r talkin about rm 1500,,,so 2 mths free work.. :lol3: , ur call
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1 good business maybe in Klang valley is that IF,,u r familiar with certain gov't departs,,like JPJ,immigration,Customs...u can b part-time or full time runner..

i deal mostly with immigration dept so i got few runners in Klang Valley.. :thumbup
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ppfoong
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Business is the key to wealth, and there are more than 1 way to get involve in business.

1. start your own
2. join a franchise
3. invest in other people's business
3.1 venture to new opportunity
3.2 invest in private company
3.3 invest in public listed company
3.4 invest in funds
3.4.1 mutual funds
3.4.2 REITs
3.4.3 palm estate funds (of Lee Kim Yew)

I work as employee, and my money works for me in investment. This route is proven by Cool Eye, a former reporter who has made his fortune.

PS: investment is totally different from speculation.
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clement
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bro ppfoong,

I bet you are a business owner or an investors..... Please advice us if there are any lubangs to venture in as the value of money is getting lesser nowadays...
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ppfoong
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I'm just an ordinary employee, at the same time having some fairly minority shares in several public listed companies.

No lubang, but got some analysis knowledge to pick shares. Can share my investment knowledge and experience if u are interested. Just tell me what u want to know, and I'll see if I manage to answer. ;)

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TunYau
Jun 29 2007, 03:53 PM
Vash also working on own business right??

not really..

now im working in a penang based MSC status company.. they wanna penetrate KL market.. so hired me.. im the only guy based in kl.. they have numerous projects with MDEC.. so been traveling there often lately.

doing sales as well..

BEST THING ABOUT MY JOB, my boss told me, we want you to treat this as your own company, and we, as the investors. we entrust you with full power over the company, quotations and whatsoever. and they really deliver.. but i have some guidelines and some minimal operation cost tht i cannot quote below laa.. :wacko

ANOTHER BEST THING.. I CAN WORK FROM HOME.. or anywhere with internet access!!! incl coffee bean, whole of 1-utama..
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vash_h
Aug 2 2007, 06:07 PM
TunYau
Jun 29 2007, 03:53 PM
Vash also working on own business right??

not really..

now im working in a penang based MSC status company.. they wanna penetrate KL market.. so hired me.. im the only guy based in kl.. they have numerous projects with MDEC.. so been traveling there often lately.

doing sales as well..

BEST THING ABOUT MY JOB, my boss told me, we want you to treat this as your own company, and we, as the investors. we entrust you with full power over the company, quotations and whatsoever. and they really deliver.. but i have some guidelines and some minimal operation cost tht i cannot quote below laa.. :wacko

ANOTHER BEST THING.. I CAN WORK FROM HOME.. or anywhere with internet access!!! incl coffee bean, whole of 1-utama..

CEO lo... :wacko work at everywhere no need balik office :thumbup
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ongkh
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ppfoong
Aug 2 2007, 05:48 PM
I'm just an ordinary employee, at the same time having some fairly minority shares in several public listed companies.

No lubang, but got some analysis knowledge to pick shares. Can share my investment knowledge and experience if u are interested. Just tell me what u want to know, and I'll see if I manage to answer. ;)

I work as employer, and my money works for me in investment. This route is proven by Cool Eye, a former reporter who has made his fortune.

are u a employer or employee in which trade ??
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ongkh
Aug 3 2007, 06:22 AM
ppfoong
Aug 2 2007, 05:48 PM
I'm just an ordinary employee, at the same time having some fairly minority shares in several public listed companies.

No lubang, but got some analysis knowledge to pick shares. Can share my investment knowledge and experience if u are interested. Just tell me what u want to know, and I'll see if I manage to answer.  ;)

I work as employer, and my money works for me in investment. This route is proven by Cool Eye, a former reporter who has made his fortune.

are u a employer or employee in which trade ??


One spelling mistake made a big difference :wacko

I'm in the IT field.

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clement
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hi bro ppfoong,

there are some of my prediction of some shares that can be bought and kept now. Since the market tumbles now, there are some potential one to be bought. My personal pick is Genting & Resort. These are potential shares. Can buy now and will be good in long term. Any comment?
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clement
Aug 4 2007, 01:11 AM
hi bro ppfoong,

there are some of my prediction of some shares that can be bought and kept now. Since the market tumbles now, there are some potential one to be bought. My personal pick is Genting & Resort. These are potential shares. Can buy now and will be good in long term. Any comment?


Those blue chips will only be cheap during recession time.

However, their subsidiary Asiatic is worth to look into at the present time.


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hi bro ppfoong,

Asiatic price kinda high... I am now looking for cheap stock that can keep for long time.... Any comment or picks?
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ongkh
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ppfoong
Aug 3 2007, 09:25 AM
I'm in the IT field.

u can start 'soho' anytimes as needed........ :yes_sir :yes_sir
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clement
Aug 4 2007, 11:17 PM
hi bro ppfoong,

Asiatic price kinda high... I am now looking for cheap stock that can keep for long time.... Any comment or picks?


As I said, blue chip will only be cheap during recession time, now they are all costly.

With the multi-billion projects in our southern and northern region, building materials like cement, steel, etc looks good for the new few years.


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ongkh
Aug 4 2007, 11:54 PM
ppfoong
Aug 3 2007, 09:25 AM
I'm in the IT field.

u can start 'soho' anytimes as needed........ :yes_sir :yes_sir


My boss also recon this, so in our offer letter, he wrote: cannot get involve in other business without permission :angry

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actually........ does anyone felt boring w/ his or her currrent job ??

continue working or how to be yr own boss ??

kindly pls share yr point of view...

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TunYau
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Ha Ha Bro Ong, u always speak the right word of of my mind when i was thnking about it.
Are you Parkem From Heroes?????

Firstly sorry for MIa for sometimes as 2009 is a busy year for my family.
Still left 1 or 3 event before i can relax.


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TunYau
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Bascialy i still ike my work with PC Server Network and ETC.
The problem is finding a company that can provide me chalengging work is so dificult.

1/ Company A 1 work 1 year and find better offer and leave.
( Company already closed now)

2/ Company B ! work 7 year and leave because no work to be carry out
everyday go there AOCM and msn and ...

3/ Company C work 3 months and leave because the company technology to old using Pentium 1 and no budget to upgrade.

4/ Compay D currently working, first 1 years learn all enviroment.
Asking for more work and responsible from Local Manager - Say Wait
Asking for samething from HQ in Taiwan - Say Wait
Lastly talk to Taiwan Local Manager - He say just work as normal 9 - 6
dont bother other things.

So again now i m in the junction again like 2 years ago when i start this topic.

Apply 35 job, Attend 5 interview and mostly all says you r not specialized or we can't give you that salary.

Curently got and offer will attend 2nd interview salary might be sae as current company.
Small company less staff more specialize work.

Also think about doing some business probablt food business.

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ongkh
Jun 15 2009, 09:11 AM
actually........ does anyone felt boring w/ his or her currrent job ??

continue working or how to be yr own boss ??

kindly pls share yr point of view...

You should'nt be boring, think positive and always find new methods in achieving ur goals. " GOAL REMAIN, METHOD CHANGE". If you really thinking doing ur own business, start when you are still working to have minimum risk. When ur business have stable then you quit. Take me as an example, always delay in venturing into business due to comfort zone. Now really got to be prudent to survive but nothing is late.
The best business I feel is in agriculture but also in selling any products which is daily activities as some agriculture don't need to be everyday. Try to learn FX trading as this is also a good income source but be prepared with RISK management.
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TunYau
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Bang Jamal,

You speak my wors as well.
Same as me i m think of doing business but delayed due to comfort zone too.

Cause earning few k per month is not easy and not every business man is lucky.
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My experience:
Dec 2000 - May 2007 - Working with several IT company.
June 2007 (Since this topic Start) - July 2008 - Full time Unit Trust Consultant
(sometimes can earn double than salary that I got before and sometimes just earn half than what that I earn before)
July 2008 - now - Already join 2 IT company within less than 1 year + Doing part time Unit Trust Consultant.

For next coming 5 years, I don't have any self confident to start my own business again. After my experience working as a full time unit trust consultant, I'm not good enough to work on my own. But within 1 yr working with my own, it was a very good experience and a very good challenge for me. I managed to become Agency Supervisor within 5 months. My Upline earned RM20K a month (Just overriding) and yearly bonus (>RM100K). You'll feel that you don't want to work with other people anymore. You'll enjoy your great time meeting people, enjoy your money with your own sweat, work with your own schedule, etc. But due to market crash last year, I lost a lot of my potential customer, lost my good relationship with them and lost a lot of my income. That's why I'm back into IT job now. But this time, better pay and some extra income from my Unit Trust Submission every month. Servicing my old clients as it's my responsible to take care of their account. For time being this is my comfort zone.
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TunYau
Jun 15 2009, 11:19 AM
Ha Ha Bro Ong, u always speak the right word of of my mind when i was thnking about it.
Are you Parkem From Heroes?????

Firstly sorry for MIa for sometimes as 2009 is a busy year for my family.
Still left 1 or 3 event before i can relax.


yes......... i can always read yr mind/ memory/ feeling at the right time..... right place.... right market.
btw, can kindly explain a bit what is Parkem From Heroes?????

aft 1-3 event, can relax for how long ??
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ongkh
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TunYau
Jun 15 2009, 11:31 AM
Also think about doing some business probablt food business.

to me........ food bizz is sucha a highly competitve industry bcos it involved
too many criteria & too complicated to start a task.
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